Drake Tax - 1041: Casualty or Theft of Personal Use Property

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Last Updated: October 18, 2024

 


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How to get a casualty loss for personal use property to go to Section A of the Form 4684

Page 1 (Section A - Personal Use Property) of Form 4684, Casualties and Thefts, is not produced by Drake Tax in a fiduciary return. It is available from IRS.Gov.

You can complete it by hand and enter the results in the software, but you may not be able to successfully e-file the return if a D2 screen entry is made and the specified forms are not present in the return (Business rules SD-1041-001 and SD-1041-002).

If page 1 of the manually completed Form 4684 displays a value:

  • on line 18 (casualty and theft deduction), the value may be entered on screen 3, line 15a (other deductions).

  • on line 15 (a capital gain remaining after form subtractions), the value may be entered on screen D2:

    • line 4 (short-term).

    • or line 11 (long-term).

Paper-filing. You can paper-file the return and submit the manually completed page 1 of Form 4684 with the rest of the return as generated in Drake Tax.

e-Filing.

  • If you make an entry on screen D2, line 4 or line 11, Business rule SD-1041-001 or SD-1041-002 will cause a reject unless the following conditions are met:

    • For line 4, one of these forms is present: 6252, 6784 or 8824

    • For line 11, one of these forms is present: 2439, 6252, 6781 or 8824

  • When data is entered on either line and if none of the required forms are present for that line, then the return must be paper-filed.

  • If you e-file the return, be sure to attach page1 of Form 4684 as a PDF, as the IRS will be expecting it to be attached.